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The 70s: Like it or loathe it?
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CapBritain
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 Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 5:50 pm Post subject: The 70s: Like it or loathe it?
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If you had the ability to go back in time and watch all those old, 70s TV shows again, would you still enjoy them? Watching them again today on DVD, are they any good?
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Shaqui
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject:
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Well I'm forever a Space:1999 fans - flaws or no! And I've bought all The Tomorrow People DVDs too... (and I have the VHS releases of Timeslip too)
It's strange, watching Life On Mars has made me realise how much iImisjudged the 70s, but then I was only age 5 to 15 through them! For me it was Countdown, Look-In and 2000AD, and I was a skinny, sickly 'geek' before the word was even invented.  If it was SF, I watched it.
TV in the early 70s was a box in the corner which died a good few times a year, that's if there wasn't a power cut! Then it all changed mid decade and we had colour and glitzy SF like Space:1999, Man From Atlantis, Logan's Run, Sapphire & Steel and the much delayed Battlestar Galactica - so delayed in fact, it debuted on TV the same time as the later Buck Rogers.
And then it was the 80s all of a sudden...
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porkulator
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 2:27 pm Post subject:
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1999 was definatley a highlight of the seventies, but there were so many unforgettable shows, who can forget Timeslip with it's chilling music. Catweazle was brilliant too, there was a lot of good stuff around not covered by Look-in too, one that springs instantly to mind is 'The Persuaders' great stuff. The seventies had a flair and style unmatched since, when you think a lot of seventies shows were short runs, wheras 80's shows churned out season after season and became stale, mostly american crap too. timeslip was only one series but it was memorable cause you whish there had been more, but in a way you're glad there was'nt. I love British sixties TV too and often wish Look-in was around sooner...'The Champions' drawn by Martin Asbury or 'The Prisoner' drawn by Mike Noble....yeah!
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CapBritain
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject:
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Yeah, John, I'd have probably liked to have seen The Prisoner in picture strip form too, though it would most likely have been much more interesting for me to see now as an adult than when I was a kid reading Look-In.
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Shaqui
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject:
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| CapBritain wrote: |
| Yeah, John, I'd have probably liked to have seen The Prisoner in picture strip form too, though it would most likely have been much more interesting for me to see now as an adult than when I was a kid reading Look-In. |
I gather Marvel very nearly did a comic version of The Prisoner in the late 60s but it was abandoned after about half a dozen pages were drawn as it was too far outside 'The Marvel-verse'. A picture from one page appears in the Time Screen British Telefantasy Comic issue.
Alan Fennell also turned down the idea of a strip in TV21 as the series was too surreal.
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porkulator
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject:
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I have to admit, I did enjoy The Prisoner more with every repeat, I was a bit young to understand what was going on first time round, so to have it in a kids comic would have been a bit silly!
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Robin
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:43 am Post subject:
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The 70's were the era with all the classic comedies. Police dramas from the 70's were some of the best ever made as well. The sci-fi shows don't stand up as well though, the story lines are still great but the special effects look poor.
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:36 am Post subject:
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Hi Robin,
Yes I agree with you about effects (look under Irwin Allen....!!!) The notable exeption to that is Gerry Anderson, I think UFO and 1999 (1st season) look as good now as they ever did, some of the fashions and haircuts in UFO are more dodgy than the effects...!!! The comedy was so much better too, On the buses and Man about the house were definite highlights, but there are so many other good shows...yes we we're definitley spoiled. I love the innocence of the humour then, way before the P.C. patrol got hold of it, could you imagine them making something like 'Love thy neighbour' now?, a notable omission from Look-in's roll call of great series. Everything now is a bit too 'safe', unless you like alternative comedy, which isn't the same as sitcom, and even they are governed by certain rules.
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Shaqui
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:15 am Post subject:
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| porkulator wrote: |
| Yes I agree with you about effects (look under Irwin Allen....!!!) |
John, how dare you! 
The Irwin Allen shows, as simplistic as the plots might have been, had some of the best effects on TV for their time... Tony and Doug falling through time, the launch and docking of the Flying Sub with Seaview, and (when it wasn't forever crashed on a planet) any flying sequence of the Jupiter 2! Land of the Giants also featured some astonishing split screen and matte work.
Unfortunately all people seem to recall are the 'magician' flash stage effects when people disappeared, but L.B. Abbott - head of 20th Century Fox effects and guy responsible for the Irwin Allen shows - and the Lydecker brothers Howard and Theodore - who built the models - were among of the most accomplished and experienced people in the business at the time.
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:30 am Post subject:
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Yes but that's the point isn't it....'for the time'. They probably did look amazing in the 60's but now look decidedly dodgy when you compare them to what's out today, the best bit is in land of the giants when the big rubber hand comes in to grab one of the little people, but theres also the much parodied rocking of the studio when saeaview crashes, the kaliedascope backgrounds when flying through something strange etc, etc. Sure, the models were brilliant, but even in the 60's you could make an amazing model of something, if you put in the hours. I'm not saying that we don't owe anything to Irwin, he inspired a lot of people to go on to do great things, and I still enjoy watching those shows, and he certainly wasn't the only guilty party back then, just the one people seem to remember for that sort of thing! 
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Shaqui
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject:
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| porkulator wrote: |
Yes but that's the point isn't it....'for the time'. They probably did look amazing in the 60's but now look decidedly dodgy when you compare them to what's out today, the best bit is in land of the giants when the big rubber hand comes in to grab one of the little people, but theres also the much parodied rocking of the studio when saeaview crashes, the kaliedascope backgrounds when flying through something strange etc, etc. Sure, the models were brilliant, but even in the 60's you could make an amazing model of something, if you put in the hours.
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OK, I'll put my money on the line and say quite a few effects (you seem to list flaws in the production and acting, where as I was referring to models and opticals) stand up even today. 'Seaview' still looks like a real sub in the ocean, whereas 'Stingray' always looked like a model, and the Flying Sub - shot against real sky - still outstrips any of the superior work in 'UFO' and 'Space:1999' for realism. It's a shame Irwin Allen's effects team decided to use an interior effects stage for 'Lost In Space' and 'Land of the Giants', as the pilot footage of the Jupiter 2 screaming out of the sun and across a real landscape has yet to be bettered by any current CGI work... I'm a great fan of using natural lighting for effects/models, and do so myself.
So what do you actually consider to be outstanding effects work then, John?
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